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Posted 2 Years ago
skye
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When I bought my Kawai GS-70 one of the things that made me fall in love with it, other than how cheap it was, was the fact that I could make lovely pianissimos with vitually no effort. I would lower the keys slowly and a beautiful sound would just roll out. Now I find it is very difficult to get the same sound. When I lower the keys slowly (particularly the lower register) the hammer never seems to reach the strings. So either I get no sound or I have to lower the key faster and get a slightly sharper and louder tone. The repetition seems to be going on it as well. Any recommendations on what I should have done to the piano to get it back to it's old shape?

Elena
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Posted 2 Years ago
eva12
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Have the action regulated by a competent piano technician.
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Posted 2 Years ago
stevo_jimmy
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Regulation. It's a regular thing to need. Hopefully the tuners in your area have the training for it.

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Rick Clark
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Posted 2 Years ago
hdram225
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I keep dumping Metamucil into my piano, trying to help it be more regular. So far, it hasn't done a bit of good, and it's MURDER to try haulin' that thang to the bathroom to see if it has to go or not. Phew!

Maybe I could write a book: 'Potty Training Your Piano Made Easy'
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Posted 2 Years ago
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I originally thought it needed regulation but my tuner claimed to have done it last time he was here. I didn't notice much of a change after, though. I guess it's time to change my tuner. Shame, he's such a nice guy, always makes time for me when I call him.

Thanks.

Elena www.concertpianist.com
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Posted 2 Years ago
Orion
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Nice website.

Interesting makeup choices. Was wondering if you'd care to comment on that.

Michael Walthius THE MUSIC OF CYBERSPACE
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Posted 2 Years ago
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I agree. Very cool...
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Posted 2 Years ago
skye
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That was written already. It's part of the Randy Potty Course.... (technicians will get it)

Larry Fletcher Dealer/technician

Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
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Posted 2 Years ago
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Elena,

It is impossible of course for me to know what your tuner may or may not have done, but even if he did the most minimal regulation (strike distance, letoff, and drop) it would have been a couple hours or so extra work, an extra charge commiserate with that work, and he would have had the action ducked in & out of the piano a bunch of times. If he didn't do those things, I'm betting it was not regulated.

I like to say that the simpleist single test for whether a grand piano is in good regulation, is if it's easy to play softly with control- because that is the first thing to be lost as a (grand) drifts out of regulation.

Unfortunately, there are of lot of people out there getting paid to work on pianos, when they have very little education or training in it. It is probably the worst problem in this field of work. Lots of people buy themselves a do-it-yourself book, learn a little about tuning, and call themselves 'professional' and use this minor skill to earn extra money. But tuning is really just a final touch. There's a whole complex instrument under there that needs attending to, and if you don't it's like putting icing on a badly made cake.

Regards,

Rick Clark
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Posted 2 Years ago
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<< an extra charge commiserate with that work >>

May I suggest that RMMP is an excellent place to commiserate with others about those additional technical charges. Your reward in moral support will be commensurate with your level of commiseration.

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Posted 2 Years ago
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Greetings, Rick Clark gave good advice. If you have control problems at pp levels, it is probably that your let-off is too far, springs too tight, and/or drop is excessive. Here is how to check:

take out the music rack so that you can see the hammer's approach to the string. Slowly depress the key while watching the hammer come up. In the middle of the piano, it should come to approx 1/16' of the string before you feel the escapement 'trip', at which time the hammer should drop about 1/8' and then rise back up to the 1/16' distance as the key reaches the bottom. If the key bottoms out before the hammer's escapement happens, you haven't enough keydip or too much hammer travel. Strike the note a moderate blow and keep the key down. The hammer should rebound from the string and be caught about halfway between its rest position and the string. If it is too low, it will have slow repetition. Now, slowly allow the key to come up and watch what happens to the hammer. It should rise up about as fast as an audience can come to their feet. If it doesn't, you may have slow repetition. If it jumps up so strongly that you can feel it in the key, the spring is too strong for pp control. A well-regulated action will also have all hammers showing the same behaviour, though the bass hammers may let-off slightly farther from the strings, and the upper ones will come closer. Good luck, don't be afraid to change techs, like Rick said, the field is full of half-baked piano mechanics. Regards, Ed Foote RPT http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html Well-tempered CD's at Gasparo.com. GSCD #332, 'Beethoven In the Temperaments' GSCD #344 . 'Six Degrees of Tonality' Caution, these CD's contain pure intervals and extensive liner notes!
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